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Would a Con-Con really do enough to solve pressing issues for the average working person and family who lives here?
I must admit that I'm completely new to this as well as political involvement in general. I am very concerned about some trends and issues that are obvious to those who must work and live here, but are rarely discussed seriously in the halls of government.
I am well aware of the fact that some of these issues are not solvable at the state government level and would require changes in Federal law. Some may be even unconstitutional under current interpretations of our ultimate political document.
Some of these issues/ideas (in no particular order) are:
Cost of housing (rents and housing purchase prices, as well as property taxes) is where it is now completely unaffordable to almost all local residents. Home ownership (especially on Oahu and Maui) is increasingly becoming a privilege reserved only for the rich from the mainland and foreign countries.
Is the property structure of 19th-century Ireland our future?
The result is that thousands of local families must move to Las Vegas and other parts of the mainland, only to be replaced by short term and part-year migrants from the mainland and other countries. (This "short-term" designation does NOT include our military personnel, but the speculators and others who do not intend to stay and live and work here permanently).
Unstable "boom-bust" economy based on tourism and real-estate speculation/construction (tourism creates mostly low-paying jobs while construction jobs, though high-paying are very unstable according to the whims of real-estate and investment cycles in the mainland and foreign countries).
It seems to me that in the "bad old days" (like 20-40 years ago), when agriculture (sugar/pineapples) were still a significant part of the economy and we still had a lot of products (compared with now) manufactured here (cement, most "Hawaiian" and surf clothing, Honolulu Iron Works, dairies, ranching, etc. as examples), that the economy was much more stable than it is now and the normal economic cycles in tourism and real estate were dampened a lot by those other sectors of that economy which now no longer exist.
What to do about endemic corruption and favoritism that seems to completely saturate most levels of state government bureaucracy as well as much of the county level as well. Almost all of my friends and family tell me they don’t vote because they see no point in doing so. "Why should I just vote in a different set of crooks?" Many have never even registered to vote and are in their 40s and 50s now.
Explosion of "luxury" and resort developments and associated development, with no real or meaningful controls on growth. Paying off environmental groups and greasing the wheels of permitting agencies through timely election contributions to the "right" politicians seems to make almost any project get approved.
No attempt to have a popular referendum vote on critical issues or recall/initiative to kick out of office crooked politicians and judges.
No meaningful local government since separate cities and towns are not allowed to incorporate. (A leftover from the monarchy?)
The mess with DHHL and still excess delays in getting people on their list onto their lands (although somewhat better than a few years ago).
What about just giving everyone on the DHHL list fee-simple title to their land immediately and abolishing DHHL totally, now that their mission has been accomplished.
Selloff to developers/investors (and/or giveaway to OHA) of the ceded lands by the state. I thought that was completely illegal and unconstitutional under both the 1959 and 1978 state constitutions.
No distinction or recognition in OHA-Kau Inoa-Akaka bill (or anywhere else in state government) between the wealthy mainland or foreign real-estate speculator/investor who arrived two years ago to flip houses and the working-class (but non-Hawaiian) person of Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, etc, ancestry whose family came 100 years ago to slave in the sugar and pineapple fields.
I do apologize if mentioning this offends anyone or sounds racist. It is not intended to be racist in any way shape or form.
Lots of other issues could be listed but these are some of the "big ones"
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Some things I would include if I could write up a state constitution
(Warning: not everything here may be constitutional or practical)
Much of the stuff I put in about creating a local “Kamaaina class” and land issues is an attempt to address issues that are frustrating to most “local” folks who believe the existing state government system only serves the interests of a small political elite and wealthy nonresidents but not them. Some of these local people are even drifting towards some of the full-independence sovereignty groups, who so far are the only ones to seriously address these two issues. May not be constitutional today but at least these issues need to be brought up.
Initiative/Recall
Right of any state resident to place an initiative on the ballot or recall any elected state, county or municipal official or judge simply by collecting 1,000 signatures. This would be placed on the ballot in the next state election. If more than 10,000 signatures are collected, a special election would be called to take place not more than 3 months from the date the signatures are turned in.
Non-elected officials of state/county/local governments would be recalled by gathering signatures of 10% of the employees under their authority, and would be allowed in cases of alleged corruption, favoritism and all other criminal acts. Once recalled, ex-officials would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Incorporation of new cities, towns and counties
Right for any community or district to incorporate as a city or town (exactly the same legally) by collecting signatures of 5% of the residents in the proposed new municipalities’ territory, then holding a special election of the residents of that territory. If a majority (50.0001% vote to incorporate, it would be approved). This would be similar to the incorporation laws of California, Washington and other mainland states.
New counties could be formed by this same process, and would have the same rights as cities (and existing counties) do now.
Immediately set up Molokai, Lanai and Niihau as separate counties.
No state or existing county agency or official may interfere in any way with the exercise of these incorporation rights.
City/town government rights would be similar to those in all mainland states and would include:
Having their own mayor/city manager and city council,
Their own police and fire department (could contract this out to other counties or cities if they are too small to do this on their own),
Right to establish local taxation and regulate businesses;
Right to set their own zoning/ planning (very important)
Forming their own school districts
Forming their own municipal water, sewer, gas and electric utilities.
And all other rights traditionally exercised by cities and towns in the mainland.
Conducting State (and local) Government
Immediately abolish the state department of education and form at a minimum one school district per island.
Immediately limit any campaign contributions to no more than $100 per person or corporation to any state or local elected officials. No exceptions. Period.
All other necessary campaign funding (newspaper ad space, etc) is given equally to all candidates. Media (TV/radio) air time will be donated without charge to all candidates as a condition of the TV/radio stations’ license.
Immediately ban all paid or hired lobbyists/lobbying to any state or local legislative body or agency. No exceptions.
Immediately strip all environmental groups, other NGOs/pressure groups and their legal defense funds/lawyers of any legal recognition beyond that of an individual ordinary citizen. (This is to break their undue and corrupting influence in government decision-making)
Immediately bring state and local gun ownership laws into strict accordance with the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.
Immediately do a complete and total IRS-style investigation of all state agencies (particularly the agencies formerly part of HCDCH), accounts, property and assets. Any current or former state government officials and employees or state contractors who committed any criminal mismanagement/embezzlement of state accounts/assets corruption, bribery or accepting bribes, nepotism, abusing their authority to cover up workplace crimes or obstruct justice, terrorizing or intimidating other employees or members of the public or any other crimes involving state employees, offices, property or assets, shall be prosecuted without mercy to the fullest extent of the law.
This law will be retroactive to all current state and county politicians and employees and also to government contractors involving their dealings with state or local government agencies.
Immediately ban the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) from conducting any activities of any kind in the State of Hawaii. Seize all of their assets (property, bank accounts, etc) held in this state.
All state and local elected officials may serve no more than two terms.
All state and local judges and heads of public safety agencies will be elected.
The state officially will do whatever possible to aid federal legislation for term limits for US senators and representatives of serving not more than two terms
Immediately ban all "no-bid" contracts involving state and local governments. No exceptions.
All awarded public-sector contracts must publically state in detail the reason the contract was awarded to the chosen contractor, and the names and titles of the state or local officials who made the decision to award and the executives of the contracting company. These officials must be able to explain this and answer questions to any state resident at any time upon request.
Business/Energy/Transportation
Encourage the establishment of new and existing agricultural and manufacturing businesses by repealing oppressive, unnecessary environmental and business regulations.
Immediately abolish all unnecessary environmental (as far as allowed by the federal government) that do not obviously protect the public health, safety, agriculture or fishing.
Immediately abolish all unnecessary business laws (as far as allowed by the federal government) that do not obviously protect the health and safety of employees or the public or actively guard against abusive or illegal business, employment or financial practices.
Lobby the federal government to likewise abolish its unnecessary environmental and other laws that impact Hawaii.
Ban any attempt to use any trendy but unproven pseudo-“scientific” fads or hypotheses (such as man-caused global warming) as the basis of any laws or regulations.
All scientific or technical reasoning cited for any laws or regulations must be demonstrable fact and not merely current fads or hypothesis.
Any new regulations on fishing or hunting will not apply to any member of the Kamaaina-class.
Kamaaina-class entrepreneurs would be eligible for no-interest loans and claim excess state or broken-up trust land for their new businesses in order to create locally-owned and operated businesses.
Businesses that would be particularly encouraged would be:
All agriculture:
Food crops and cash crops for export (sugar/pineapples/Mac nuts), flowers/decorative plants
Ranching, dairies, aquaculture (fish/shrimp/etc farms/ponds, etc)
Manufacturing:
All Items formerly made here in the last 50 years.
New or emerging technology
General manufacturing of products that are now excessively expensive and in high demand by Hawaii residents.
Transportation:
Grants, no-interest loans and right-of-way assistance (land in some cases) for new “common carrier” railroads, including reconstruction of formerly existing lines. Additional grants/incentives for using electrically powered (overhead wires or third rail) trains.
Remove the current ban on nuclear power plants and offer incentives to encourage construction of nuclear plants of the safest “state of the art” design (for Hawaiian conditions) if utilities decide that building a nuclear plant would be desirable.
Encourage development of hydroelectric and agricultural/industry cogeneration power plants (i.e. sugar mill power plants, etc) as well as practical and economically competitive types of solar/wind power projects.
If practical, incentives to construct an undersea power cable system interconnecting the electrical grids of all six major islands.
Offer incentives (a cash prize or patent rights) for economically competitive producing Ethanol or other useful fuels/chemicals from agricultural trash and household “green waste”.
The state officially will do whatever possible to aid any proposed federal legislation protecting Hawaii and nationwide industries and manufacturing from unfair foreign competition.
Immediately ban all outsourcing of any jobs from Hawaii to foreign countries.
Taxes
Establish a 1-page (one side) tax form for all state residents and small (less than 100 employees) businesses. This tax form must be clear and simple enough that the average high-school graduate can accurately calculate his or her taxes in less than 30 minutes.
All combined State and Local taxes can never be able to take more than 10 percent of a State resident person or family’s combined gross income.
Public Safety
Immediately reinstate a mandatory death penalty for the following crimes:
Murder
Rape
Child Molestation
Drug Dealing: Selling any amount of any illegal drug
Attempted murder causing severe, debilitating and permanent physical harm to the victim.
The mandatory death penalty will be retroactive and immediately in effect for all those currently in prison serving sentences for the above-listed crimes.
All executions will be in public, and will be carried out within 30 days of the court sentence being handed down. Only one appeal is allowed, to the governor.
Immediately All state or local government officials and employees convicted of corruption, embezzlement, bribery or accepting bribes, nepotism, abusing their authority to cover up crimes or obstruct justice, and terrorizing or intimidating other employees or members of the public shall be publically flogged and humiliated at the nearest public space to the scene of the crime, then sentenced to no less than 10 years in prison at hard labor. This law will be retroactive to all current state and county politicians and employees and also to government contractors for corruption, embezzlement, bribery and obstruction of justice involving their dealings with state or local government agencies.
Homeless and Illegals
All homeless persons who cannot prove that they have lived in Hawaii for at least 10 years and are not Kamaiina-class shall be (if able-bodied first publically flogged) immediately deported back to the mainland or country of origin.
All able-bodied resident single homeless persons who refuse to work or refuse treatment for chronic drug habits or alchoholism, shall be arrested and sentenced to 1 year on a chain gang.
Kamaaina-class persons or families who are currently homeless through no fault of their own (unable to pay high rents, personal tragedy, etc) shall be provided with financial assistance and land/a house of their own, and job/farming/business training/assistance as long as they are willing to use it to become self-sufficient.
All illegal aliens will be immediately arrested upon detection and turned over to Federal authorities for prosecution and deportation.
OHA
Abolish OHA and all its sub-agencies immediately on grounds that they have failed their duties and fiduciary obligations completely (as defined in the 1978 constitution). Do not create anything to take OHA’s place.
What about just immediately giving everyone on the DHHL list fee-simple title to their land (letting them move on it now) and then abolishing DHHL totally, now that their mission has been accomplished? (Instead of treating them like children who need to be looked after by the state as with the current lease system).
Trusts/Leaseholds
Breakup all residential and agricultural/conservation lands of the huge "Alii" and "Big-5" era "legacy" trusts. Anyone who is a "Kamaaina-class" resident who has lived continuously 5 years on land owned by one of these big trusts may claim it and receive immediate full fee-simple title to the land and buildings/improvements on it that they are using.
Completely ban any leaseholds on all non-commercial properties, and ban leaseholds of all industrial and infrastructure/utility properties. These would be given to the lessee for payment of the market value minus the lease payments over the last 20 years or since the start of the lease, whichever is sooner.
Trust beneficiaries would receive partial compensation by being given portions of assets/lands seized from foreign (non US) or felon criminal owners.
KSBE
Bishop Estate shall be left with only enough property to run the Kamehameha Schools (and set a side an improvement/rainy-day fund of no more than 10% of total KSBE yearly income) with free tuition for all students whose family income is less than $75,000 a year. All excess income/profits above this would be equally divided among the KSBE shareholders.
KSBE is immediately reorganized as a corporation with all parents of students currently enrolled, full-time permanent teachers and staff members, and alumni comprising the shareholders, each holding one share per person. The shareholders would elect a board of directors who would appoint corporate officers, exactly the same as in existing publicly-held business corporations. Any KSBE shareholder can initiate a recall of any corporate official or director by collecting 100 signatures of KSBE shareholders and stating the reason for the recall. A general recall election giving opportunity for all KSBE shareholders to vote will be held within 30 days.
Kamehameha Schools and other private schools may be able to discriminate based on Hawaiian ancestry as long as they accept no government funding in any form at all.
Immediately abolish the current KSBE trustee system in its entirety.
Immediately conduct a full-blown IRS-style investigation of KSBEs’ accounts and assets. Any current or former trustee, KSBE, state/county or other responsible official who committed any criminal mismanagement/embezzlement of KSBE assets or any other crimes involving KSBE shall be prosecuted without mercy to the fullest extent of the law.
Government Employees and Unions
Open Shop: Immediately allow all state and local government employees the right to choose to be a member of (or not to be in) a union. Allow any person to be hired, work and be promoted in any state or local government position without being a union member.
Immediately abolish all collective bargaining agreements of UPW and HGEA and other unions representing state and local employees, but only leaving wage and benefit conditions of these existing union contracts in place pending results of new employee elections.
All Promotions immediately will be based on merit only, not seniority.
Immediate firing and loss of all benefits to any government employee for committing any crime (other than minor traffic tickets) at work.
Land
Total ban on foreign (not a US citizen or corporation) ownership of any and all agricultural, residential, conservation and other lands. Only exceptions could be for certain already developed industrial and commercial buildings so foreign companies can still do business here. Buy out or seize all existing lands (except as mentioned above) held by foreigners.
Immediate and mandatory seizure of all property and assets belonging to convicted felons (any crime punishable by 1 year or more in prison).
Must be a permanent Hawaii state resident and US citizen (or legal resident alien who shows intent to become a US citizen and permanent Hawaii state resident by signing a legal form) to own any residential, agricultural or conservation land or house
(I realize this would probably destroy the states' real-estate/construction industry by itself as well as being problematic legally)
Immediately repeal the 1874 foreclosure law, replace it with one patterned after the most restrictive (hardest to foreclose on someone) laws of mainland states.
Give fee-simple title of the entire island of Niihau to its residents, paying the Robinson family of Kauai fair market value in cash and possibly seized properties as compensation.
Residency/Citizenship
State residency will be only for those who have lived here one (1) year and who intend to stay as permanent residents by signing an "intent" form (similar to most mainland states). It would allow the person to vote in state and county/municipal elections, and would formally start the waiting process to become legally recognized as a "Kamaaina-class" member.
Nonresidents, Part-year and "vacation" residents would not be able to vote or get any state/local benefits or apply for any state, county or municipal jobs. (Best if voting, etc would be restricted to "Kamaaina-class" persons but this would create US constitutional problems for sure)
A legal "Kamaaina" distinction or recognition of permanent (i.e. "local") residents of this state by the state government, defined as either being born and raised here or having both lived and worked here for at least 1/3 of your life (age) at time of application with no intention of leaving.
This legal class would replace that now existing for native Hawaiians. Local "born and raised" residents and their descendants who have moved to the mainland already would be immediately eligible for all of these Kamaaina benefits once they return here.
Kamaaina-class benefits would include:
No distinction or discrimination of any kind by the federal, state or local governments in the state would be allowed at all against any Kamaaina class members because of having Hawaiian blood or not having any Hawaiian blood.
Much reduced property taxes (based on income but should be not more than 0.5% of annual after-tax income of a person making over $50,000 or family over $75,000 nothing at all if under). Burden of property taxes shifted to nonresidents and non-Kamaaina residents and businesses.
Right to claim family land either taken wrongfully in the past or promised to them (or lived on as part of plantation work by sugar/pineapple plantations), unless already owned by another Kamaaina or their small business, or occupied by a major commercial, government or industrial building/structure (then they would be offered another land parcel of equal current market value or the original parcels current market value in its place). This includes all Kamaaina who still live on former plantation land and who are current or ex-plantation employees or descendants of current/former employees. These fee-simple titles shall immediately be offered to all "Kamaaina"-class members.
Excess state or broken-up alii/big-5 trust lands that are able to be used for home lots or agriculture shall be immediately made available to any Kamaaina-class-class member.
Access to traditional gathering/cultural practices (since most Hawaiian families include some non-Hawaiian but local (Kamaaina-class) members)
Social services (welfare, public housing, etc and all formerly Hawaiians-only government programs and priveledges)
I am well aware of the fact that some of these issues are not solvable at the state government level and would require changes in Federal law. Some may be even unconstitutional under current interpretations of our ultimate political document.
Some of these issues/ideas (in no particular order) are:
Cost of housing (rents and housing purchase prices, as well as property taxes) is where it is now completely unaffordable to almost all local residents. Home ownership (especially on Oahu and Maui) is increasingly becoming a privilege reserved only for the rich from the mainland and foreign countries.
Is the property structure of 19th-century Ireland our future?
The result is that thousands of local families must move to Las Vegas and other parts of the mainland, only to be replaced by short term and part-year migrants from the mainland and other countries. (This "short-term" designation does NOT include our military personnel, but the speculators and others who do not intend to stay and live and work here permanently).
Unstable "boom-bust" economy based on tourism and real-estate speculation/construction (tourism creates mostly low-paying jobs while construction jobs, though high-paying are very unstable according to the whims of real-estate and investment cycles in the mainland and foreign countries).
It seems to me that in the "bad old days" (like 20-40 years ago), when agriculture (sugar/pineapples) were still a significant part of the economy and we still had a lot of products (compared with now) manufactured here (cement, most "Hawaiian" and surf clothing, Honolulu Iron Works, dairies, ranching, etc. as examples), that the economy was much more stable than it is now and the normal economic cycles in tourism and real estate were dampened a lot by those other sectors of that economy which now no longer exist.
What to do about endemic corruption and favoritism that seems to completely saturate most levels of state government bureaucracy as well as much of the county level as well. Almost all of my friends and family tell me they don’t vote because they see no point in doing so. "Why should I just vote in a different set of crooks?" Many have never even registered to vote and are in their 40s and 50s now.
Explosion of "luxury" and resort developments and associated development, with no real or meaningful controls on growth. Paying off environmental groups and greasing the wheels of permitting agencies through timely election contributions to the "right" politicians seems to make almost any project get approved.
No attempt to have a popular referendum vote on critical issues or recall/initiative to kick out of office crooked politicians and judges.
No meaningful local government since separate cities and towns are not allowed to incorporate. (A leftover from the monarchy?)
The mess with DHHL and still excess delays in getting people on their list onto their lands (although somewhat better than a few years ago).
What about just giving everyone on the DHHL list fee-simple title to their land immediately and abolishing DHHL totally, now that their mission has been accomplished.
Selloff to developers/investors (and/or giveaway to OHA) of the ceded lands by the state. I thought that was completely illegal and unconstitutional under both the 1959 and 1978 state constitutions.
No distinction or recognition in OHA-Kau Inoa-Akaka bill (or anywhere else in state government) between the wealthy mainland or foreign real-estate speculator/investor who arrived two years ago to flip houses and the working-class (but non-Hawaiian) person of Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, etc, ancestry whose family came 100 years ago to slave in the sugar and pineapple fields.
I do apologize if mentioning this offends anyone or sounds racist. It is not intended to be racist in any way shape or form.
Lots of other issues could be listed but these are some of the "big ones"
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Some things I would include if I could write up a state constitution
(Warning: not everything here may be constitutional or practical)
Much of the stuff I put in about creating a local “Kamaaina class” and land issues is an attempt to address issues that are frustrating to most “local” folks who believe the existing state government system only serves the interests of a small political elite and wealthy nonresidents but not them. Some of these local people are even drifting towards some of the full-independence sovereignty groups, who so far are the only ones to seriously address these two issues. May not be constitutional today but at least these issues need to be brought up.
Initiative/Recall
Right of any state resident to place an initiative on the ballot or recall any elected state, county or municipal official or judge simply by collecting 1,000 signatures. This would be placed on the ballot in the next state election. If more than 10,000 signatures are collected, a special election would be called to take place not more than 3 months from the date the signatures are turned in.
Non-elected officials of state/county/local governments would be recalled by gathering signatures of 10% of the employees under their authority, and would be allowed in cases of alleged corruption, favoritism and all other criminal acts. Once recalled, ex-officials would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Incorporation of new cities, towns and counties
Right for any community or district to incorporate as a city or town (exactly the same legally) by collecting signatures of 5% of the residents in the proposed new municipalities’ territory, then holding a special election of the residents of that territory. If a majority (50.0001% vote to incorporate, it would be approved). This would be similar to the incorporation laws of California, Washington and other mainland states.
New counties could be formed by this same process, and would have the same rights as cities (and existing counties) do now.
Immediately set up Molokai, Lanai and Niihau as separate counties.
No state or existing county agency or official may interfere in any way with the exercise of these incorporation rights.
City/town government rights would be similar to those in all mainland states and would include:
Having their own mayor/city manager and city council,
Their own police and fire department (could contract this out to other counties or cities if they are too small to do this on their own),
Right to establish local taxation and regulate businesses;
Right to set their own zoning/ planning (very important)
Forming their own school districts
Forming their own municipal water, sewer, gas and electric utilities.
And all other rights traditionally exercised by cities and towns in the mainland.
Conducting State (and local) Government
Immediately abolish the state department of education and form at a minimum one school district per island.
Immediately limit any campaign contributions to no more than $100 per person or corporation to any state or local elected officials. No exceptions. Period.
All other necessary campaign funding (newspaper ad space, etc) is given equally to all candidates. Media (TV/radio) air time will be donated without charge to all candidates as a condition of the TV/radio stations’ license.
Immediately ban all paid or hired lobbyists/lobbying to any state or local legislative body or agency. No exceptions.
Immediately strip all environmental groups, other NGOs/pressure groups and their legal defense funds/lawyers of any legal recognition beyond that of an individual ordinary citizen. (This is to break their undue and corrupting influence in government decision-making)
Immediately bring state and local gun ownership laws into strict accordance with the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.
Immediately do a complete and total IRS-style investigation of all state agencies (particularly the agencies formerly part of HCDCH), accounts, property and assets. Any current or former state government officials and employees or state contractors who committed any criminal mismanagement/embezzlement of state accounts/assets corruption, bribery or accepting bribes, nepotism, abusing their authority to cover up workplace crimes or obstruct justice, terrorizing or intimidating other employees or members of the public or any other crimes involving state employees, offices, property or assets, shall be prosecuted without mercy to the fullest extent of the law.
This law will be retroactive to all current state and county politicians and employees and also to government contractors involving their dealings with state or local government agencies.
Immediately ban the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) from conducting any activities of any kind in the State of Hawaii. Seize all of their assets (property, bank accounts, etc) held in this state.
All state and local elected officials may serve no more than two terms.
All state and local judges and heads of public safety agencies will be elected.
The state officially will do whatever possible to aid federal legislation for term limits for US senators and representatives of serving not more than two terms
Immediately ban all "no-bid" contracts involving state and local governments. No exceptions.
All awarded public-sector contracts must publically state in detail the reason the contract was awarded to the chosen contractor, and the names and titles of the state or local officials who made the decision to award and the executives of the contracting company. These officials must be able to explain this and answer questions to any state resident at any time upon request.
Business/Energy/Transportation
Encourage the establishment of new and existing agricultural and manufacturing businesses by repealing oppressive, unnecessary environmental and business regulations.
Immediately abolish all unnecessary environmental (as far as allowed by the federal government) that do not obviously protect the public health, safety, agriculture or fishing.
Immediately abolish all unnecessary business laws (as far as allowed by the federal government) that do not obviously protect the health and safety of employees or the public or actively guard against abusive or illegal business, employment or financial practices.
Lobby the federal government to likewise abolish its unnecessary environmental and other laws that impact Hawaii.
Ban any attempt to use any trendy but unproven pseudo-“scientific” fads or hypotheses (such as man-caused global warming) as the basis of any laws or regulations.
All scientific or technical reasoning cited for any laws or regulations must be demonstrable fact and not merely current fads or hypothesis.
Any new regulations on fishing or hunting will not apply to any member of the Kamaaina-class.
Kamaaina-class entrepreneurs would be eligible for no-interest loans and claim excess state or broken-up trust land for their new businesses in order to create locally-owned and operated businesses.
Businesses that would be particularly encouraged would be:
All agriculture:
Food crops and cash crops for export (sugar/pineapples/Mac nuts), flowers/decorative plants
Ranching, dairies, aquaculture (fish/shrimp/etc farms/ponds, etc)
Manufacturing:
All Items formerly made here in the last 50 years.
New or emerging technology
General manufacturing of products that are now excessively expensive and in high demand by Hawaii residents.
Transportation:
Grants, no-interest loans and right-of-way assistance (land in some cases) for new “common carrier” railroads, including reconstruction of formerly existing lines. Additional grants/incentives for using electrically powered (overhead wires or third rail) trains.
Remove the current ban on nuclear power plants and offer incentives to encourage construction of nuclear plants of the safest “state of the art” design (for Hawaiian conditions) if utilities decide that building a nuclear plant would be desirable.
Encourage development of hydroelectric and agricultural/industry cogeneration power plants (i.e. sugar mill power plants, etc) as well as practical and economically competitive types of solar/wind power projects.
If practical, incentives to construct an undersea power cable system interconnecting the electrical grids of all six major islands.
Offer incentives (a cash prize or patent rights) for economically competitive producing Ethanol or other useful fuels/chemicals from agricultural trash and household “green waste”.
The state officially will do whatever possible to aid any proposed federal legislation protecting Hawaii and nationwide industries and manufacturing from unfair foreign competition.
Immediately ban all outsourcing of any jobs from Hawaii to foreign countries.
Taxes
Establish a 1-page (one side) tax form for all state residents and small (less than 100 employees) businesses. This tax form must be clear and simple enough that the average high-school graduate can accurately calculate his or her taxes in less than 30 minutes.
All combined State and Local taxes can never be able to take more than 10 percent of a State resident person or family’s combined gross income.
Public Safety
Immediately reinstate a mandatory death penalty for the following crimes:
Murder
Rape
Child Molestation
Drug Dealing: Selling any amount of any illegal drug
Attempted murder causing severe, debilitating and permanent physical harm to the victim.
The mandatory death penalty will be retroactive and immediately in effect for all those currently in prison serving sentences for the above-listed crimes.
All executions will be in public, and will be carried out within 30 days of the court sentence being handed down. Only one appeal is allowed, to the governor.
Immediately All state or local government officials and employees convicted of corruption, embezzlement, bribery or accepting bribes, nepotism, abusing their authority to cover up crimes or obstruct justice, and terrorizing or intimidating other employees or members of the public shall be publically flogged and humiliated at the nearest public space to the scene of the crime, then sentenced to no less than 10 years in prison at hard labor. This law will be retroactive to all current state and county politicians and employees and also to government contractors for corruption, embezzlement, bribery and obstruction of justice involving their dealings with state or local government agencies.
Homeless and Illegals
All homeless persons who cannot prove that they have lived in Hawaii for at least 10 years and are not Kamaiina-class shall be (if able-bodied first publically flogged) immediately deported back to the mainland or country of origin.
All able-bodied resident single homeless persons who refuse to work or refuse treatment for chronic drug habits or alchoholism, shall be arrested and sentenced to 1 year on a chain gang.
Kamaaina-class persons or families who are currently homeless through no fault of their own (unable to pay high rents, personal tragedy, etc) shall be provided with financial assistance and land/a house of their own, and job/farming/business training/assistance as long as they are willing to use it to become self-sufficient.
All illegal aliens will be immediately arrested upon detection and turned over to Federal authorities for prosecution and deportation.
OHA
Abolish OHA and all its sub-agencies immediately on grounds that they have failed their duties and fiduciary obligations completely (as defined in the 1978 constitution). Do not create anything to take OHA’s place.
What about just immediately giving everyone on the DHHL list fee-simple title to their land (letting them move on it now) and then abolishing DHHL totally, now that their mission has been accomplished? (Instead of treating them like children who need to be looked after by the state as with the current lease system).
Trusts/Leaseholds
Breakup all residential and agricultural/conservation lands of the huge "Alii" and "Big-5" era "legacy" trusts. Anyone who is a "Kamaaina-class" resident who has lived continuously 5 years on land owned by one of these big trusts may claim it and receive immediate full fee-simple title to the land and buildings/improvements on it that they are using.
Completely ban any leaseholds on all non-commercial properties, and ban leaseholds of all industrial and infrastructure/utility properties. These would be given to the lessee for payment of the market value minus the lease payments over the last 20 years or since the start of the lease, whichever is sooner.
Trust beneficiaries would receive partial compensation by being given portions of assets/lands seized from foreign (non US) or felon criminal owners.
KSBE
Bishop Estate shall be left with only enough property to run the Kamehameha Schools (and set a side an improvement/rainy-day fund of no more than 10% of total KSBE yearly income) with free tuition for all students whose family income is less than $75,000 a year. All excess income/profits above this would be equally divided among the KSBE shareholders.
KSBE is immediately reorganized as a corporation with all parents of students currently enrolled, full-time permanent teachers and staff members, and alumni comprising the shareholders, each holding one share per person. The shareholders would elect a board of directors who would appoint corporate officers, exactly the same as in existing publicly-held business corporations. Any KSBE shareholder can initiate a recall of any corporate official or director by collecting 100 signatures of KSBE shareholders and stating the reason for the recall. A general recall election giving opportunity for all KSBE shareholders to vote will be held within 30 days.
Kamehameha Schools and other private schools may be able to discriminate based on Hawaiian ancestry as long as they accept no government funding in any form at all.
Immediately abolish the current KSBE trustee system in its entirety.
Immediately conduct a full-blown IRS-style investigation of KSBEs’ accounts and assets. Any current or former trustee, KSBE, state/county or other responsible official who committed any criminal mismanagement/embezzlement of KSBE assets or any other crimes involving KSBE shall be prosecuted without mercy to the fullest extent of the law.
Government Employees and Unions
Open Shop: Immediately allow all state and local government employees the right to choose to be a member of (or not to be in) a union. Allow any person to be hired, work and be promoted in any state or local government position without being a union member.
Immediately abolish all collective bargaining agreements of UPW and HGEA and other unions representing state and local employees, but only leaving wage and benefit conditions of these existing union contracts in place pending results of new employee elections.
All Promotions immediately will be based on merit only, not seniority.
Immediate firing and loss of all benefits to any government employee for committing any crime (other than minor traffic tickets) at work.
Land
Total ban on foreign (not a US citizen or corporation) ownership of any and all agricultural, residential, conservation and other lands. Only exceptions could be for certain already developed industrial and commercial buildings so foreign companies can still do business here. Buy out or seize all existing lands (except as mentioned above) held by foreigners.
Immediate and mandatory seizure of all property and assets belonging to convicted felons (any crime punishable by 1 year or more in prison).
Must be a permanent Hawaii state resident and US citizen (or legal resident alien who shows intent to become a US citizen and permanent Hawaii state resident by signing a legal form) to own any residential, agricultural or conservation land or house
(I realize this would probably destroy the states' real-estate/construction industry by itself as well as being problematic legally)
Immediately repeal the 1874 foreclosure law, replace it with one patterned after the most restrictive (hardest to foreclose on someone) laws of mainland states.
Give fee-simple title of the entire island of Niihau to its residents, paying the Robinson family of Kauai fair market value in cash and possibly seized properties as compensation.
Residency/Citizenship
State residency will be only for those who have lived here one (1) year and who intend to stay as permanent residents by signing an "intent" form (similar to most mainland states). It would allow the person to vote in state and county/municipal elections, and would formally start the waiting process to become legally recognized as a "Kamaaina-class" member.
Nonresidents, Part-year and "vacation" residents would not be able to vote or get any state/local benefits or apply for any state, county or municipal jobs. (Best if voting, etc would be restricted to "Kamaaina-class" persons but this would create US constitutional problems for sure)
A legal "Kamaaina" distinction or recognition of permanent (i.e. "local") residents of this state by the state government, defined as either being born and raised here or having both lived and worked here for at least 1/3 of your life (age) at time of application with no intention of leaving.
This legal class would replace that now existing for native Hawaiians. Local "born and raised" residents and their descendants who have moved to the mainland already would be immediately eligible for all of these Kamaaina benefits once they return here.
Kamaaina-class benefits would include:
No distinction or discrimination of any kind by the federal, state or local governments in the state would be allowed at all against any Kamaaina class members because of having Hawaiian blood or not having any Hawaiian blood.
Much reduced property taxes (based on income but should be not more than 0.5% of annual after-tax income of a person making over $50,000 or family over $75,000 nothing at all if under). Burden of property taxes shifted to nonresidents and non-Kamaaina residents and businesses.
Right to claim family land either taken wrongfully in the past or promised to them (or lived on as part of plantation work by sugar/pineapple plantations), unless already owned by another Kamaaina or their small business, or occupied by a major commercial, government or industrial building/structure (then they would be offered another land parcel of equal current market value or the original parcels current market value in its place). This includes all Kamaaina who still live on former plantation land and who are current or ex-plantation employees or descendants of current/former employees. These fee-simple titles shall immediately be offered to all "Kamaaina"-class members.
Excess state or broken-up alii/big-5 trust lands that are able to be used for home lots or agriculture shall be immediately made available to any Kamaaina-class-class member.
Access to traditional gathering/cultural practices (since most Hawaiian families include some non-Hawaiian but local (Kamaaina-class) members)
Social services (welfare, public housing, etc and all formerly Hawaiians-only government programs and priveledges)
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Permalink Reply by Kaunaloa on -
wow -- we can halt the longest post contest, that's fer sure ...
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lots of good stuff here, and, as a simple answer, YES many of the items you mention, properly addressed, would indeed benefit john & mary q. public.
i would have to take quite some time to digest the enitre post, but during my scroll through something did jump out at me -- "Immediately set up Molokai, Lanai and Niihau as separate counties."
no ah-ah -- nearly doubling the number of counties by "granting" such status to what, 35k[?] folks total does them nor the rest of us any good ...
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Permalink Reply by Kaunaloa on
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hmm ...
while i can perhaps see some benefit to trying to rework residency classifications, the "kamaaina" class as laid out is fairly problematic, esp. the "no intent to leave" part -- fairly unenforceable ...
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Permalink Reply by Roger Bertschi on -
Dear Kaunaloa,
Thanks for the kind words regarding my post. I apologize for the length. I wrote it somewhat in a huff last night (didnt finish until almost 1 am).
I fully expected a torrent of nasty emails and postings accusing me of being a heartless, Machiavellian racist or Hugo Chavez-style socialist. I was actually quite suprised that the post hasent been deleted already.
I do know some people in a couple of the "full-independance" sovereignty groups, and they have twice tried to recruit me in the last 3 years, but I very politely declined.
I realize that the likelihood of any of what I wrote actually making it into a new state constitution (and then actually being enforced) are probably similar to winning the grand $100 million prize in a typical state lottery or me becoming governor.....
Cheers,
Roger Bertschi
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Permalink Reply by Kaunaloa on
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Peter has been a very good administrator re: allowing posters to put out what is on their minds, regardless of the "popularity" of ideas, just as long as they stay focused on the purpose here -- the potential ConCon. As such, your proposals [yeah, many very radical] are well within the bounds of discussion.
ok, on my 2nd pass through your opus the following comes to mind:
* like the term limits idea.
* portions of the campaign contribution limits/public financing sounds very good & mebbe workable
* still strongly object to the incorporation of addl. cities/counties
* as much as i may personally love to see the aclu disappear locally, can't see how to make it happen with any sort of legality
* large-scale farming ain't coming back -- simply not viable. more generally w.r.t. attempting to stimulate the various classes of businesses, govt. should do one thing and one thing only -- get the frak out of the way! hence, not sure most of those specific proposals are viable.
* as much as we all want to see continued reform re: the bishop estate, not sure how/if we can mandate much of those items within a governmental framework.
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Permalink Reply by Roger Bertschi on
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Dear Kaunaloa (and everyone who reads this),
Your reply to my last post expressed very well the extremely limited options available within our current legal and political framework. Maybe it is yet another bit of evidence that having a Con-con and trying to "tinker" with the existing system would just bring more of the same old stuff we have been getting for the last 40-plus years at least.
It appears quite obvious that most of our big problems are hopelessly unsolveable within the bounds of the current political and legal system. This is pretty frightening if you really think about all that this would imply. It means that the very best outcome that we can hope for is for all the political and economic "status quou" trends we have now to just continue as long as they can..... Maybe we can get by for another 20 or 30 years?
It may very well be that my friends and family who dont vote and just ignore politics completely may be the wisest ones of all.
Why waste time, energy and frustration to try to "make things better" and then discover that you have helped put another set of crooks in and maybe ever so slightly changed the rules but are getting exactly the same results as before....
I apologize for sounding rather downbeat in this post. Maybe this is a good wake up (or really snooze down) call to ignore politics totally and just focus on my own life, family and friends. Let the system just run its course and eventually crash/self destruct.
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Permalink Reply by Kaunaloa on
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Respectfully disagree on several counts -- you proposed some 20 ideas; i, solely based on my personal opinion, have dissed mebbe 5. that leaves ~15 real live game changers still in play. your friends and family who don't vote are not wise -- they are part of the frakking problem due to their laziness [and yes, i'd say that to their face!]. it is precisely our pathetic voter turnout numbers that gives us what we have now; and sites like this WILL change that. continue to post here. sign peittions. run for neighborhood board. attend school meetings. join a party and/or lobbying groups. the little things begin to add up. giving up is no solution, because if/when the system "crashes/self destructs" all that time & energy you spent on building your family's fortune is going to come tumbling down , and you would be better off having shored up the system which like it or not is the framework that keeps this tiny corner of our nation [relatively] healthy & prosperous ...
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Permalink Reply by John Mussack on -
Aloha Robert!
Your only suggestion that I am knowledgeable enough to comment on is to replace the state department of education with local departments at the county or island level. I agree completely with that. And I think it is probably one that has a lot of support and would be relatively easy to accomplish, since county governments already exist.
Aloha!
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Permalink Reply by Leilani on -
Aloha Roger,
I agree with Kaunaloa long post..I like yourself dont consider myself politcal but I will admitt that the way things are going in our State we need a platform such as a Con-Con to address these severe issues...hoping for change...
I have a couple of questions that I would like to ask you. First, could you define what you meant by
right to claim family land? And secondly, do you realize that Mr. Bishop was "kamaaina class"?
Leilani
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Permalink Reply by Roger Bertschi on
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Leilani said:Aloha Roger,
I agree with Kaunaloa long post..I like yourself dont consider myself politcal but I will admitt that the way things are going in our State we need a platform such as a Con-Con to address these severe issues...hoping for change...
I have a couple of questions that I would like to ask you. First, could you define what you meant by
right to claim family land? And secondly, do you realize that Mr. Bishop was "kamaaina class"?
Leilani
Dear Leilani,
I am definately not a lawyer (civil engineering in reality), but to answer your two questions,
Right to claim family land:
This would be if the person or family could provide some legal proof in the form of documents (like an old title, or a promise made by a sugar or pineapple plantation, or proof that they or their parents/ garndparents worked for a plantation/lived in plantation housing) that they could claim that piece of land or house once the documents were verified. Obviously there would have to be some limit on the size of land that could be claimed (which would depend on the potential value of the land and its location maybe 100 or 200 acres in amost all cases). I would imagine the vast majority of such cases would involve claiming only house lots or small "taro patch" sized parcels of agricultural land, less than 5 acres.
I realize that this would be absolutely impossible to do under the existing system, since it would be at the expense of the large alii/big-5 land trusts, corporations and big mainland/foreign investors. It would destroy the real-estate speculation market here, and with it most of the construction industry and engineering (I would probably vote myself out of a job, unless I worked for the government).
The two times where something like this could have realistically been done were in 1898-1900 and during the martial-law period of WW2. Nowdays this would probably realistically only happen if somehow the sovereingnty movments had their way and were able to declare complete independance from the US.
Mr. Bishop:
If you mean Charles Reed Bishop, husband of princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop, he would have been most definately in the "kamaaina class" he moved to Hawaii around 1845 (when he was in his early 20s) became a naturalized Hawaiian citizen and died here in 1915. The only exception would have been if he had been actively involved in plotting the overthrow of the Queen (treason, if she had regaied her throne), which I admit I dont know.
I actually meant to define the "kamaaina class" mostly as a way to incorporate all of the descendants of the plantation laborers who came after 1893 (and even those who came before since they were never considered citizens of the kingdom) into a group that would also include all native Hawaiians and a very limited number of more recent arrivals who have culturally become a part of that class. Interesting to note that the Japanese and Chinese planatation laborers (and other immigrants) who were here in 1893 were known to be very pro-monarchy and doubtless many of them would have fought and died for the Queen had that become necessary....
This "kamaaina class" is intended to be a much more socially and culturally realistic alternative to the potentially explosive race-based class system currently being pushed by the Akaka Bill, which lumps the 4th or 5th generation descendants of plantation laborers together with wealthy mainland arrivals who came last year as "non-hawaiians"....and likely would split apart many local families along racial lines.
The largest cultural, economic and social class distinctions in Hawaii over the last 75-100 years have been "locals" versus "mainlanders/foreigners" and not "Hawaiians vs everyone else", as recently portrayed in the media and by some pressure groups. Generally the Hawaiians and other "local" ethnicities have tended to intermarry and mix to a point where it is essentially impossible now to try to separate them, but have had very little intermarriage/mixing with the "recent mainland/foreign arrivals" group (malinihi?-not sure if I'm spelling it right), based on what I have seen and heard. This exact argument is being used by many of the complete-independance sovereignty groups (Hawaiian Kingdom Government, Nation of Hawaii, etc.) to recruit local but non-Hawaiian members. It would be far better if this could be somehow satisfied without having to leave the US!
I apologize for the second long post answer. The first one was a combination of frustration venting and being unable to sleep to lower back "discomfort".
Roger Bertschi
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Permalink Reply by Leilani on
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Roger Bertschi said:Leilani said:Aloha Roger,
I agree with Kaunaloa long post..I like yourself dont consider myself politcal but I will admitt that the way things are going in our State we need a platform such as a Con-Con to address these severe issues...hoping for change...
I have a couple of questions that I would like to ask you. First, could you define what you meant by
right to claim family land? And secondly, do you realize that Mr. Bishop was "kamaaina class"?
Leilani
Dear Leilani,
I am definately not a lawyer (civil engineering in reality), but to answer your two questions,
Right to claim family land:
This would be if the person or family could provide some legal proof in the form of documents (like an old title, or a promise made by a sugar or pineapple plantation, or proof that they or their parents/ garndparents worked for a plantation/lived in plantation housing) that they could claim that piece of land or house once the documents were verified. Obviously there would have to be some limit on the size of land that could be claimed (which would depend on the potential value of the land and its location maybe 100 or 200 acres in amost all cases). I would imagine the vast majority of such cases would involve claiming only house lots or small "taro patch" sized parcels of agricultural land, less than 5 acres.
I realize that this would be absolutely impossible to do under the existing system, since it would be at the expense of the large alii/big-5 land trusts, corporations and big mainland/foreign investors. It would destroy the real-estate speculation market here, and with it most of the construction industry and engineering (I would probably vote myself out of a job, unless I worked for the government).
The two times where something like this could have realistically been done were in 1898-1900 and during the martial-law period of WW2. Nowdays this would probably realistically only happen if somehow the sovereingnty movments had their way and were able to declare complete independance from the US.
Mr. Bishop:
If you mean Charles Reed Bishop, husband of princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop, he would have been most definately in the "kamaaina class" he moved to Hawaii around 1845 (when he was in his early 20s) became a naturalized Hawaiian citizen and died here in 1915. The only exception would have been if he had been actively involved in plotting the overthrow of the Queen (treason, if she had regaied her throne), which I admit I dont know.
I actually meant to define the "kamaaina class" mostly as a way to incorporate all of the descendants of the plantation laborers who came after 1893 (and even those who came before since they were never considered citizens of the kingdom) into a group that would also include all native Hawaiians and a very limited number of more recent arrivals who have culturally become a part of that class. Interesting to note that the Japanese and Chinese planatation laborers (and other immigrants) who were here in 1893 were known to be very pro-monarchy and doubtless many of them would have fought and died for the Queen had that become necessary....
This "kamaaina class" is intended to be a much more socially and culturally realistic alternative to the potentially explosive race-based class system currently being pushed by the Akaka Bill, which lumps the 4th or 5th generation descendants of plantation laborers together with wealthy mainland arrivals who came last year as "non-hawaiians"....and likely would split apart many local families along racial lines.
The largest cultural, economic and social class distinctions in Hawaii over the last 75-100 years have been "locals" versus "mainlanders/foreigners" and not "Hawaiians vs everyone else", as recently portrayed in the media and by some pressure groups. Generally the Hawaiians and other "local" ethnicities have tended to intermarry and mix to a point where it is essentially impossible now to try to separate them, but have had very little intermarriage/mixing with the "recent mainland/foreign arrivals" group (malinihi?-not sure if I'm spelling it right), based on what I have seen and heard. This exact argument is being used by many of the complete-independance sovereignty groups (Hawaiian Kingdom Government, Nation of Hawaii, etc.) to recruit local but non-Hawaiian members. It would be far better if this could be somehow satisfied without having to leave the US!
I apologize for the second long post answer. The first one was a combination of frustration venting and being unable to sleep to lower back "discomfort".
Roger Bertschi
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Permalink Reply by Leilani on
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Aloha Roger,
The first immigrants to arrive to work on plantations were the Chinese. They migrated to Kohala were there are still evidence of their existence..and I believe one of the largest in the State...And of course later other nationalities as well. As far as land base I believe that in some cases they did own a home or some land...years ago many lost their homes or both...And here on this island since the "baby boomers" arrived many have sold their parcels...
Did you know that in the Kingdom of Hawaii,any person who was a slave was made free? Yes, they didnt wait to establish the 13th Ammendment.. In school here we learned that Hawaii was a military base and that is why they iilegally annexed Hawaii. This is not a fact...Hawaii, produced sugar! After the Civil War, the US was lets say in a state of depression and needed lets call it capital gains...So on the backs of those indentured farmers produced an end to their means..Isn't that ironic? The same ethnic minorities that were not given the same inalienable rights in the US? Oh let's not forget the same ones that were placed in concentration camps during WWII and fought in the same war yet waited years to receive a "purple heart" or some other fair and equitable show for their honor and bravery! And while we are on the topic, I always wanted to know why in fact the Germans weren't thrown into concentration camps? Is that democracy?
You need to know that the Kingdom of Hawaii was a democatic monarchy not feudal. More importantly, recognized internationally as a soverign entity. Today, when a country violates another we call it "terrorism?" Quite interesting isnt it?
You mentioned that the same ethnic minorities would have fought for Queen Liliuokalani. This is true they were citizens of the Kingdom..But did you know that there are still fifth generation Caucasion families who would have done the same?
Leaving some mana'o
Leilani
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Permalink Reply by Roger Bertschi on
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Dear Leilani,
You brought up some good points. I can think of some 'caucasian families" who were on the side of the Queen in the 1893-95 period, like the Cummins family (ran Waimanalo Plantation), Claus Spreckels, Patrick Swanzy, and (according to the historian of the Hawaiian Railway Society, Ben Dillingham). All shows that the history of this particular period was a little more complex than the typical "evil haoles vs. good Hawaiians" in schoolbooks and pop culture. Some of my friends who are pro-sovereignty (and also their websites) assert that the powers-that-be reframed the question of the overthrow and surrounding events as a racial grievence issue rather than a nationalist one. If theres any truth to this it woyuld certainly be a very clever and effective way of dividing local/kamaaina people, worthy of Maciavelli himself.
Back to the main points.....
Leilani said:Aloha Roger,
The first immigrants to arrive to work on plantations were the Chinese. They migrated to Kohala were there are still evidence of their existence..and I believe one of the largest in the State...And of course later other nationalities as well. As far as land base I believe that in some cases they did own a home or some land...years ago many lost their homes or both...And here on this island since the "baby boomers" arrived many have sold their parcels...
Did you know that in the Kingdom of Hawaii,any person who was a slave was made free? Yes, they didnt wait to establish the 13th Ammendment.. In school here we learned that Hawaii was a military base and that is why they iilegally annexed Hawaii. This is not a fact...Hawaii, produced sugar! After the Civil War, the US was lets say in a state of depression and needed lets call it capital gains...So on the backs of those indentured farmers produced an end to their means..Isn't that ironic? The same ethnic minorities that were not given the same inalienable rights in the US? Oh let's not forget the same ones that were placed in concentration camps during WWII and fought in the same war yet waited years to receive a "purple heart" or some other fair and equitable show for their honor and bravery! And while we are on the topic, I always wanted to know why in fact the Germans weren't thrown into concentration camps? Is that democracy?
You need to know that the Kingdom of Hawaii was a democatic monarchy not feudal. More importantly, recognized internationally as a soverign entity. Today, when a country violates another we call it "terrorism?" Quite interesting isnt it?
You mentioned that the same ethnic minorities would have fought for Queen Liliuokalani. This is true they were citizens of the Kingdom..But did you know that there are still fifth generation Caucasion families who would have done the same?
Leaving some mana'o
Leilani
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